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Title: Canadian navy asking for millions more to cope with ballooning costs of submarine fleet | National Post
Category: Military
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2014-09-26 07:58:25
Canadian

[uwish]

no problemo, we just parked 4 warships should be lots o cash around..

[Xort]

Should have bought German or US.

[Jabberwalker]

Shoudda bought a high mileage warranty from the Kippers ...

[saturn_656]

http://www.naval-technology.com/news/ne ... us-4386733

Looks like we're upgrading to the latest Mk48 torpedo variant.

[ShepherdsDog]

we have subs?

[saturn_656]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

we have subs?

Hell yeah, and sometimes most of them work too!

[bootlegga]

I understand that we're facing funding cuts, but I find it hard to believe that $19 million can't be found in a budget of almost $20 billion.

Didn't we spend a couple billion on contractors last year?

[Canadian_Mind]

All the money that went towards these for 10-15 years of operational service...

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

we have subs?

Jeeze Dude, don't you watch The Nature of Things?


or are you speaking of MANNED subs?

[BartSimpson]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

we have subs?

Lots of 'em.

[Nuggie77]

Xort Xort:

Should have bought German or US.

The US do not sell submarines and we couldn't afford the German ones at the time. Besides, it was a politically motivated deal with the Brits. You let us continue to use Suffield for training and we'll give you a good deal on the subs.

[Xort]

Nuggie77 Nuggie77:

The US do not sell submarines and we couldn't afford the German ones at the time. Besides, it was a politically motivated deal with the Brits. You let us continue to use Suffield for training and we'll give you a good deal on the subs.

The subs don't work, will never work well, just more UK junk military equipment.

The they were cheap is pointless because they don't work, so in fact they are hugely expensive wastes.

The US have in the past offered non export versions of US military gear to Canada. They may have been willing to sell older 688s, or take extra production for new Virginias.

The Germans sell at reasonable prices and unlike the UK they can build weapon systems that work well.

What we got stuck with is a bunch of useless deadly junk, that the UK was going to sell for scrap. At the price of scrap it still would have been a bad deal.

[Nuggie77]

The subs don't work, will never work well, just more UK junk military equipment.

The they were cheap is pointless because they don't work, so in fact they are hugely expensive wastes.

The US have in the past offered non export versions of US military gear to Canada. They may have been willing to sell older 688s, or take extra production for new Virginias.

The Germans sell at reasonable prices and unlike the UK they can build weapon systems that work well.

What we got stuck with is a bunch of useless deadly junk, that the UK was going to sell for scrap. At the price of scrap it still would have been a bad deal.[/quote]

ACtually we have one sub operational and another coming operational this year.
And they are the quietest subs in the water. The US will never sell a nuclear sub to anyone, new or used. One of the many reasons we didn't get nuke subs after the 87 White Paper is because of a treaty the US and Britain have preventing the Brits from selling their shared nuclear technology to anyone.

[saturn_656]

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/28/world ... ology.html

$1:

Reagan, Rejecting Navy's Advice, Promises Canada Sub Technology

By PHILIP SHABECOFF, Special to the New York Times
Published: April 28, 1988

President Reagan overrode opposition from senior Navy officers and told Prime Minister Brian Mulroney today that he would approve a Canadian purchase of nuclear submarines using American reactor technology.

The President assured Mr. Mulroney that he would also recommend to Congress that it approve the transfer of the sensitive nuclear technology.

The United States has been wary of sharing its nuclear technology with other nations, and previously had allowed only Britain to use the reactor technology.

To Acquire 10 to 12 Subs

Canada is planning to acquire 10 to 12 nuclear submarines to patrol its territorial waters beneath the Arctic ice cap. It is considering the British Trafalgar-class sub as well as French vessels.

The issue never made it to Congress. As is normal for Canada, we fumbled the ball before that point.

Even if the Americans did say no (which they weren't), there was always the French. Their reactor tech isn't subject to American restrictions.