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Title: Canada, U.S. may not meet deadline for softwood-lumber deal: Freeland
Category: Business
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-09-15 04:08:06
Canadian

[shockedcanadian]

I've corresponded with Ms. Freeland and cc'ed other International Trade Minister. Goodwill I think is a loosely used term to describe this. America knows Canada stabs them in the back and have been doing so for decades, it was only a matter of time before they became more protectionist.

Good luck with the CETA and TPP...what a way to ruin great relationships.

[DrCaleb]

Heaven forbid we should do business in our own country by our own rules.

[Thanos]

Our yard apes will never trust us again.

[shockedcanadian]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Heaven forbid we should do business in our own country by our own rules.

This is trade, involving more than one nation, Canada doesn't live in a bubble as much as some would like us to. Furthermore, if you violate agreenents not only will nation be less interested in such agreements, or not trust you enough to do so (see CETA), but, you could face legal consequences or just as damaging, less investment,jobs and growth.

[DrCaleb]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Heaven forbid we should do business in our own country by our own rules.

This is trade, involving more than one nation, Canada doesn't live in a bubble as much as some would like us to. Furthermore, if you violate agreenents not only will nation be less interested in such agreements, or not trust you enough to do so (see CETA), but, you could face legal consequences or just as damaging, less investment,jobs and growth.

The problem with Softwood lumber the US has, originates with our stumpage fees that are charged loggers on Crown land. It's an internal matter!

The US then, despite numerous successful NAFTA and WTO challenges, continues to put import duties on that lumber because they feel the stumpage fees are the equivalent of a a subsidy.

We do business in our own country the way we want, and they slap duties on us. No wonder they don't trust you.

[andyt]

The problem, in BC at least, is that most forest land is publicly owned. The govt allocates most of that timber without a bidding process, so the stumpage charged is not set by the market. In the US, most timber is on private land, so there's no government involvement, they can sell their timber however they want. Instead of these lengthy negotiations and court battles, we should try to figure out a way to sell the timber that the Americans can't object to, but without privatizing our forest lands.

[shockedcanadian]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Heaven forbid we should do business in our own country by our own rules.

This is trade, involving more than one nation, Canada doesn't live in a bubble as much as some would like us to. Furthermore, if you violate agreenents not only will nation be less interested in such agreements, or not trust you enough to do so (see CETA), but, you could face legal consequences or just as damaging, less investment,jobs and growth.

We do business in our own country the way we want, and they slap duties on us. No wonder they don't trust you.

Who is "they"?