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Title: Canada to control smaller area in Afghanistan
Category: Military
Posted By: SigPig
Date: 2009-03-26 13:23:25
Canadian

[ridenrain]

Gee, thanks St. Obama but we're gone im 2011.
Maybe France can help you out with that.

[saturn_656]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Maybe France can help you out with that.

Should have been a condition of letting them rejoin NATO's military command.

[Akhenaten]

Or Aussies. They're not even in NATO and they're helping out.

[Bacardi4206]

I forget, are we gone in 2011 for sure or is it based off the whole "If you don't put in additional troops we will leave by that date".

The Canadian Government keeps changing there story that it's getting confusing.

I guess it doesn't matter, I mean if we cannot finish this war by 2011 than we should just say fuck it and ditch anyway. Too much money and effort is wasted on Afghanistan for little to no appreciation from the Afghanistan people or even citizens world wide. I would bet 50 dollars with all the money we spend on the ANA they will just go corrupt. Sell there new Canadian Rifles and weapons to the Taliban, accept bribes from the Taliban and probally just go completly corrupt where the taliban can just leak back into Afghanistan and undo all we have done.

Does Afghanistan have any source of income at all? Because right now western governments are pretty much footing the bill to pay for the ANA and ANP. Once we all leave Afghanistan. We cannot pay for the Afghanistan Military forever. If they cannot get enough income to pay all the soldiers than like I said. They will stop working, go corrupt and Afghanistan will be back to where it use to be.

Iraq may have been a war nobody should have entered but they atleast will get out of Iraq with a larger chance of success. With reconstruction complete. Iraq has the resources it can trade to get the income to afford there military and even continue the reconstruction of there country without western help.

[SigPig]

We are gone in 2011 period. Whether certain countries get off their ass and replace us or not (reference France and Germany). I don't know what you are referring to when you say the government keeps changing their minds. This had been the plan from the start and it hasn't changed.

[ridenrain]

I thought the combat forces would be leaving the country but couldn't find the "official" vote details.
Are we out of the country, out of the south or just out of combat?
Do you have any details?

[Bacardi4206]

SigPig SigPig:

We are gone in 2011 period. Whether certain countries get off their ass and replace us or not (reference France and Germany). I don't know what you are referring to when you say the government keeps changing their minds. This had been the plan from the start and it hasn't changed.

It has changed actually, first they said they would leave in 2011 if NATO diddn't send in additional troops in the region to help the CF and also lend some choppers for use to that region that the CF could use.

Than they flip flopped and said they were going to leave by 2011 period. That is why it's confusing.

[roger-roger]

I thought it was leave in 09 if more troops were not supplied, they were and the misson was exstended to 2011.

[ridenrain]

When in doubt, go to the source.. not the CBC.

$1:

On March 13, 2008, the House of Commons passed a motion calling for an extension of the Canadian military presence in Kandahar to July 2011. The House attached three critical conditions to this extension: the securing of an additional battle group (about 1,000 soldiers) from a partner country to deploy in Kandahar by February 2009; the acquisition of medium-lift helicopters and high-performance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) by February 2009; and notification to allies in NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) that Canada will end its military presence in Kandahar as of July 2011, and complete the departure of Canadian Forces troops by December 2011.

These conditions are being met on schedule. A U.S. Army battalion has deployed to Kandahar; these additional 1,000 troops doubled the total of coalition combat forces in the province. More U.S. reinforcements are expected in Afghanistan in 2009. The Canadian Forces have acquired and deployed the prescribed helicopters and UAVs to Kandahar. And NATO allies have been notified that Canada will end its military presence in 2011.
...

Action on Canada’s priorities is being designed and executed to achieve concrete progress by 2011, when our military mission in Kandahar ends. For greater effect, we continue to concentrate military and civilian efforts in Kandahar while maintaining an influential diplomatic and development presence in Kabul, so that security, governance and development programs reinforce each other.

http://www.afghanistan.gc.ca/canada-afg ... px?lang=en

2011: Canadian combat mission ends. They may still have people in country but in a non-combat position.
They also may have RCMP...