[Newsbot]

Title: Canada�s pullout from F-35 program will boost costs for other nations by as much as $1M per jet
Category: Military
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2015-10-24 13:54:26
Canadian

[Canadian_Mind]

Good

[llama66]

The fighter is a $1.1 trillion piece of dog shit.

[sandorski]

Are there other Nations interested in it still?

[Thanos]

No objection from me at all if we withdraw entirely from this white elephant. Buy a couple hundred Super Bugs for the next twenty odd years of interim until the F35 has the kinks worked out. In time it will be a terrific plane but the first couple of generations of it are going to be a hyper-expensive nightmare. It's never good to deal with a monopoly and that's what Lockheed's unfortunately been turning into.

[BRAH]

The Viper would have been a better investment.

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

No objection from me at all if we withdraw entirely from this white elephant. Buy a couple hundred Super Bugs for the next twenty odd years of interim until the F35 has the kinks worked out. In time it will be a terrific plane but the first couple of generations of it are going to be a hyper-expensive nightmare. It's never good to deal with a monopoly and that's what Lockheed's unfortunately been turning into.

It's dead. The new PM said he was gonna cancel the contract and build us new ships instead. So, I wait with bated breath for all the shiny new tankers, icebreakers, Frigates and Command and Control Destroyers as promised.

[llama66]

I thought the Navy opted for the hybrid Frigate Destroyer

[PluggyRug]

BRAH BRAH:

The Viper would have been a better investment.

A craft with air intakes and stubby wings for use in the vacuum of space.

[bootlegga]

llama66 llama66:

I thought the Navy opted for the hybrid Frigate Destroyer

No, they are planning on building a common hull (larger than either the Iroquois or Halifax hulls) and fitting them with different weapons systems depending on their role (FFH or DDH).

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/business-equ ... atant.page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Cl ... nt_Project

[Canadian_Mind]

bootlegga bootlegga:

llama66 llama66:

I thought the Navy opted for the hybrid Frigate Destroyer

No, they are planning on building a common hull (larger than either the Iroquois or Halifax hulls) and fitting them with different weapons systems depending on their role (FFH or DDH).

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/business-equ ... atant.page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Cl ... nt_Project

Is Trudeau supportive of this plan? Will he keep the hull numbers at 15?

[Thanos]

AS the ships are imaginary things that no Canadian government has any intention of building then they can make up any number of them that they want. Why stop at fifteen? They should say they're going to build fifty of them, finish one, then cancel the program entirely when the costs inevitably spiral wildly out of control.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

AS the ships are imaginary things that no Canadian government has any intention of building then they can make up any number of them that they want. Why stop at fifteen? They should say they're going to build fifty of them, finish one, then cancel the program entirely when the costs inevitably spiral wildly out of control.

[bootlegga]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

bootlegga bootlegga:

llama66 llama66:

I thought the Navy opted for the hybrid Frigate Destroyer

No, they are planning on building a common hull (larger than either the Iroquois or Halifax hulls) and fitting them with different weapons systems depending on their role (FFH or DDH).

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/business-equ ... atant.page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Cl ... nt_Project

Is Trudeau supportive of this plan? Will he keep the hull numbers at 15?

I don't think they ever quoted a definitive number, but he did mention several times that cost savings from the F-35 would go to building new ships for the Navy - and it was re-iterated by Andrew Leslie (likely the new Defence Minister) on election night.

$1:

A Liberal government would not purchase F-35 fighter jets to replace Canada’s aging CF-18s and instead buy cheaper planes, saving money that would go primarily towards the navy, party leader Justin Trudeau said Sunday.

...

Trudeau also promised to reduce the size of administration in the Department of National Defence, but he would not say if that meant members of the forces would be laid off.

The military needs “more teeth and less tail,” he said, meaning more money for frontline resources and less on bureaucracy.

He added that he would also immediately launch a review of military spending, but promised to maintain current National Defence funding levels as well as planned increases.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e26446887/

[BartSimpson]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

BRAH BRAH:

The Viper would have been a better investment.

A craft with air intakes and stubby wings for use in the vacuum of space.

They also were seen to operate in atmospheric environments so the stubby wings were useful at times. Sort of like the space shuttle.