[Newsbot]

Title: Burning poppy photo: Man arrested for posting image on Twitter
Category: Military
Posted By: Newfy
Date: 2012-11-13 02:11:08

[Newfy]

Funny how all the news reports left out the bit where he posted "How about that you squaddie c***s!" It may not be illegal to burn Poppies, but to post it in a public forum with that statement is surely malicious and could even be inciting violence.

[ShepherdsDog]

The fucknut was likely taken into protective custody.

[andyt]

Newfy Newfy:

Funny how all the news reports left out the bit where he posted "How about that you squaddie c***s!" It may not be illegal to burn Poppies, but to post it in a public forum with that statement is surely malicious and could even be inciting violence.

If we had the same laws in Canada, most of us here would be in jail.

[OnTheIce]

If someone was to burn something important to certain cultures, it would be instantly labelled as a hate crime.

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

If someone was to burn something important to certain cultures, it would be instantly labelled as a hate crime.

Can you give an example?

[Jonny_C]

News items mention that veterans might be happy about the charges... but would they be?

I would say that many of them might think that incidents like this are perpetrated by cranks, who will be censured in the court of public opinion anyway, and thus taken care of WITHOUT state intervention. State control (dictatorship) and its curtailment of freedoms (including the freedom to do stupid things) is the thing they fought against.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

If someone was to burn something important to certain cultures, it would be instantly labelled as a hate crime.

Can you give an example?

If I go and spray paint "Iran will burn" on the outside of a monument celebrating Iranians, it would be a hate crime. If I spray painted the same on a Mosque, it would also be a hate crime.

If an Iranian writes "Canada Will Burn" on a Canadian monument, or on a United Church, it's just vandalism.

[andyt]

Did an Iranian do so? Got a link or something?

Did anybody spray paint "Iran will burn" on anything and get charged with a hate crime, or are you just making stuff up? Specifics would help here.

Actually, AFAIK, hateful messages against nations are not classified as hate crimes. Writing Iranians or Canadians will burn might be deemed a threat or incitement to violence, don't think it would be deemed a hate crime.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Did an Iranian do so? Got a link or something?

Did anybody spray paint "Iran will burn" on anything and get charged with a hate crime, or are you just making stuff up? Specifics would help here.

Actually, AFAIK, hateful messages against nations are not classified as hate crimes. Writing Iranians or Canadians will burn might be deemed a threat or incitement to violence, don't think it would be deemed a hate crime.

Yep, blinders are fully on.

I guess cause nothing of the sort happens in your neck of the woods, it wouldn't happen and it would be stupid for anyone to suggest that.

Just a few samples of the double standard:

Church = "Vandalized"
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/ ... cle/217035

Mosque = "Hate Crime"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st ... crime.html

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

/quote]

Yep, blinders are fully on.

I guess cause nothing of the sort happens in your neck of the woods, it wouldn't happen and it would be stupid for anyone to suggest that.

Just a few samples of the double standard:

Church = "Vandalized"
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/ ... cle/217035

Mosque = "Hate Crime"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st ... crime.html

From your own link about the vandalized church:

$1:

"As a result of the language that was used, it is considered a hate crime," Toronto police Const. Tony Vella said.

Do you only read the headlines?

[Gunnair]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

Did an Iranian do so? Got a link or something?

Did anybody spray paint "Iran will burn" on anything and get charged with a hate crime, or are you just making stuff up? Specifics would help here.

Actually, AFAIK, hateful messages against nations are not classified as hate crimes. Writing Iranians or Canadians will burn might be deemed a threat or incitement to violence, don't think it would be deemed a hate crime.

Yep, blinders are fully on.

I guess cause nothing of the sort happens in your neck of the woods, it wouldn't happen and it would be stupid for anyone to suggest that.

Just a few samples of the double standard:

Church = "Vandalized"
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/ ... cle/217035

Mosque = "Hate Crime"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st ... crime.html

Well, outside of a group calling for an investigation to determine if the attack on the mosque was a hate crime that would a poor comparison. The pastor in the first example could have asked for the same but apparently did not.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Do you only read the headlines?

Is that all you had to offer?

Yes, I read the articles but do you really thing headlines don't matter? When you sell the same act as two different things, you're pushing forth your PC agenda.

[andyt]

So you've got your knickers in a knot because two different editors used different headlines? That's what all your fussing is about. Or as you said, is that all you have to offer?

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

So you've got your knickers in a knot because two different editors used different headlines? That's what all your fussing is about. Or as you said, is that all you have to offer?

Expect a very sharp rebuke once he changes his manties.