[Newsbot]

Title: Boy, 11, takes gun to school in fear after Newtown shooting
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: snookums
Date: 2012-12-18 15:06:00

[ShepherdsDog]

The parents of this child need to be charged with unsafe storage....this could of had horrible consequences.

[commanderkai]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The parents of this child need to be charged with unsafe storage....this could of had horrible consequences.

Agreed.

[xerxes]

It's just so emblematic of the problem isn't it? For so long, the mantra from the NRA and the like has been that everyone needs a gun at all times in case there's a shootout. Because America apparently is like the Wild West.

[ShepherdsDog]

The wild west was nowhere that wild

[Thanos]

Weren't laws requiring safe storage in the home ruled unconstitutional by a couple of the NRA's favourite SCOTUS justices, along with trigger locks and extended capacity magazines? Just more whistling past the graveyard, folks. The deed's already done.

$1:

Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
.........
That's how it goes, everybody knows

- Leonard Cohen

[Strutz]

How sad...

I feel bad for the kid for believing that this was even remotely necessary. Thank God it was not loaded.

[martin14]

Strutz Strutz:

How sad...

I feel bad for the kid for believing that this was even remotely necessary. Thank God it was not loaded.

+1

[Jughead]

commanderkai commanderkai:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The parents of this child need to be charged with unsafe storage....this could of had horrible consequences.

Agreed.

Interesting that this occured in the state of Utah. I don't believe Utah has any storage laws pertaining to firearms as they relate to private homes. While residing in Arizona (just south of Utah), I recall the gun laws there were very lax. I suspect Utah's are even more so. I would head to the shooting range on week-ends with my Glock-19, and did not require a permit provided my handgun was always visible. Underage kids were often present at the shooting range, and often they were not accompanied by any adult.

Here are some of Utah's laws related to this incident:

$1:

With a valid Utah concealed firearm permit you may also carry in schools (K-12 and public colleges). Utah's Uniform Firearm Laws expressly prohibits public schools from enacting or enforcing any rule pertaining to firearms. Accordingly, Utah is the only state in the Union that requires public schools to allow lawful firearms possession.

$1:

A minor under 18 years of age may not possess a dangerous weapon unless he has the permission of his parent or guardian to have the weapon, or is accompanied by a parent or guardian while he has the weapon in his possession. Violation of this law is a class B misdemeanor upon the first offense, and a class A misdemeanor for each subsequent offense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Utah

http://www.dr-security.com/reference/Utah_Code.pdf

So unless authorities can prove this kid actually made a threat to someone, it unfortunately looks like this kid will not be charged with a felony. That's too bad.

[Xort]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The parents of this child need to be charged with unsafe storage....this could of had horrible consequences.

Does Utah have a storage requirement?

Jughead Jughead:

So unless authorities can prove this kid actually made a threat to someone, it unfortunately looks like this kid will not be charged with a felony. That's too bad.

WTF is wrong with you? The child is 11. You don't give scared 11 year olds that didn't hurt anyone a felony conviction.

[Guy_Fawkes]

We should finish developing a troll badge.

[xerxes]

Xort Xort:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The parents of this child need to be charged with unsafe storage....this could of had horrible consequences.

Does Utah have a storage requirement?

Jughead Jughead:

So unless authorities can prove this kid actually made a threat to someone, it unfortunately looks like this kid will not be charged with a felony. That's too bad.

WTF is wrong with you? The child is 11. You don't give scared 11 year olds that didn't hurt anyone a felony conviction.

Really? You're talking about a country where mentally handicapped minors are executed. The kid will get a felony conviction.

[Xort]

xerxes xerxes:

Really? You're talking about a country where mentally handicapped minors are executed. The kid will get a felony conviction.

What happens legaly is just speculation right now, what will happen will happen.

What I'm talking about is Jughead saying it is too bad that the child will not be charged and face a felony conviction.

He thinks that it would be bad if the child isn't charged.

[Gunnair]

Xort Xort:

xerxes xerxes:

Really? You're talking about a country where mentally handicapped minors are executed. The kid will get a felony conviction.

What happens legaly is just speculation right now, what will happen will happen.

What I'm talking about is Jughead saying it is too bad that the child will not be charged and face a felony conviction.

He thinks that it would be bad if the child isn't charged.

Are you suggesting it would be good if he wasn't charged?

[Xort]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Are you suggesting it would be good if he wasn't charged?

It would be good if he could avoid a felony conviction that would follow him for the rest of his life. Yes.

More to the point is what laws did the child break? It seems like the child would have broken the law Jughead quoted, about having a dangerous weapon without permission.

That's a class B misdemeanor. A bit more inline with the breach of law that happened.