[Newsbot]

Title: Bar owners charged in alleged drunk-driving deaths
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2012-06-27 08:41:10
Canadian

[Prof_Chomsky]

I just can't agree with this.

Think back to university bar hopping. 90% of the people in any bar, pub, club were SMASHED. Then they would responsibly stumble home on foot, or hail a cab.
How can a bar owner possibly ascertain the soberness of every single person in their establishment short of forcing an unlawful breathalyzer test, and how can they possibly know whether someone intends to drive rather than take a cab or get a ride with a friend?

[Unsound]

Doesn't matter if it's realistic, or even possible, you can't possibly expect people to live with the consequences of their own actions? Can you?

[2Cdo]

Another law that takes personal responsibility away from the offenders.

[BartSimpson]

Oh, I like this. What it will do is cause insurance companies to withdraw or cancel their policies on bars, thus shutting them. It will also cause a lot of people whose bars were on the fence financially to go ahead and close, too. Then, when this stupid, idiotic decision is inevitably extended to liquor shops and wineries there will be a defacto prohibition in Canada.

And then your government will bitch, whine, and complain because they'll be losing precious revenue from liquor and sales taxes.

[Prof_Chomsky]

I personally liked one of the comments under the original article

"If we're passing the buck responsibility wise, I guess we better blame the government. They've made alcohol legal for sale and consumption and get rich off of the sale. I don’t see them monitoring what the guy does after he buys a 40oz at the local liquor store. Clearly that man would NEVER get intoxicated and do something wrong."

[bootlegga]

As far as I know, that's been the case for years in Alberta.

http://aglc.ca/pdf/liquor/Liquor_Laws_&_You.pdf

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Then, when this stupid, idiotic decision is inevitably extended to liquor shops and wineries there will be a defacto prohibition in Canada.

Won't happen in Ontario since the Beer Store and Liquor Store are essentially government organs.

[BartSimpson]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Then, when this stupid, idiotic decision is inevitably extended to liquor shops and wineries there will be a defacto prohibition in Canada.

Won't happen in Ontario since the Beer Store and Liquor Store are essentially government organs.

Don't bet against it. If a bartender can be charged with a crime so can a government liquor store clerk.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Then, when this stupid, idiotic decision is inevitably extended to liquor shops and wineries there will be a defacto prohibition in Canada.

Won't happen in Ontario since the Beer Store and Liquor Store are essentially government organs.

Don't bet against it. If a bartender can be charged with a crime so can a government liquor store clerk.

But it wasn't the bartender, it was the bar owners being charged. Big difference.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oh, I like this. What it will do is cause insurance companies to withdraw or cancel their policies on bars, thus shutting them. It will also cause a lot of people whose bars were on the fence financially to go ahead and close, too. Then, when this stupid, idiotic decision is inevitably extended to liquor shops and wineries there will be a defacto prohibition in Canada.

I like it too. Maybe we can get prohibition to work after all. Save a lot of lives.

What would your comment be if this was a compassion club owner that was being charged?

[Zipperfish]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Another law that takes personal responsibility away from the offenders.

Yup. Somehow it's everybody else's fault.

[2Cdo]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Another law that takes personal responsibility away from the offenders.

Yup. Somehow it's everybody else's fault.

That's all you here from people today, mom didn't love me enough, daddy didn't buy me a car, the teacher is picking on me. ALWAYS someone else's fault, and always an excuse.

We've officially entered the Age of Whinery.

[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Another law that takes personal responsibility away from the offenders.

Yup. Somehow it's everybody else's fault.

That's all you here from people today, mom didn't love me enough, daddy didn't buy me a car, the teacher is picking on me. ALWAYS someone else's fault, and always an excuse.

We've officially entered the Age of Whinery.

Well, as an excuse, you can always try to use it. But to make it law is a whole different ballgame...

[andyt]

The person who caused the accident is dead - not sure how much responsibility she can take. Bars have had a responsibility not to serve drunks for ever, and they've been held responsible for doing so before. Not sure if that's such a bad thing.