[Newsbot]

Title: Army recognized for serious gaming
Category: Military
Posted By: SigPig
Date: 2009-02-08 09:09:42
Canadian

[Canadian_Mind]

Thats right, video games as a fucking training aid.

I think we'd be able to recruit alot more people in my age group if they new they got to play videogames occasionally. I've had awesome times driving tanks in th VBS 2 lab in Gagetown, and Call of Duty here in Pet. All as training aids. Yes I do have to act as I would in the real world during simulation, but there is always plenty of fuck-around time before and after the main training regime for the morning/afternoon.

[putz]

Would be nice to have this out west. We have the SAT rooms..... TAKE THAT Gagetown... oh wait you have one too..... lol! I really would lke to give this a try sometime within the next 20 or so years.

[roger-roger]

Video training aids are about as useful as blank ammo IMO.

Now close quarters Simunition, that stuff is fun.

[putz]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Video training aids are about as useful as blank ammo IMO.

Now close quarters Simunition, that stuff is fun.

Unless its urban Ops, and your doing room clearing, and your the enemy force, for days on end then its fun and painful.....

[Canadian_Mind]

Thought op-forr was given simunition rounds aswell, so that you actually become a casualty in urban ops training... make it more realistic.

Yea, video games really aren't good for anything except communications training and some formation training. otherise there is zip for beinifit.

And fuck SAT trainers. My first time on the one in Gage I had a 70mm grouping, I was told I was among the better shots they had ever seen, and they put my score up on the wall. In basic I had 32mm groupings at 200 meters my first time ever on a range. The things are complete and total shit.

[SigPig]

I would say SAT ranges are useful in the one aspect of being a safe and easy way of getting new soldiers used to range routines. Especially for people who have never been on a range or fired a weapon before.

[Canadian_Mind]

Nothing instills good habits like someone fucking up on a live range. As long as the weapon is pointing downrange when it goes off, which it always should be whether it is loaded or not.

[Bacardi4206]

They should buy BF2 for there PC's and just download Project Reality. It's the best mod ever, completly realistic in everything. Designed by professional game designers, and coached on realism by actual soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Mostly British soldiers.

Soon in the next patch there will be a Canadian Forces faction release where people can finally play as the CF. It includes our jets, new choppers, vehicles, weapons and sights. Everything the CF owns will be in the game to be used.

The game is pushing towards more urban envirements and actual battlefields the military has faught on. Which means one map the CF will play as is Operation Archer which could give them good practice at finding caches and working together tacticly in a huge map and open battlefield surounded by mountains and terrain.

In the mod there is also civilians so soldiers have to watch there fire, there is no better realism training.

[SigPig]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Nothing instills good habits like someone fucking up on a live range. As long as the weapon is pointing downrange when it goes off, which it always should be whether it is loaded or not.

Exactly...as long as it is pointed downrange. And what if it isn't? Do you want to be there when that rifle goes off because Pte Shitpump is being retarded?

[putz]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Thought op-forr was given simunition rounds aswell, so that you actually become a casualty in urban ops training... make it more realistic.

Yea, video games really aren't good for anything except communications training and some formation training. otherise there is zip for beinifit.

And fuck SAT trainers. My first time on the one in Gage I had a 70mm grouping, I was told I was among the better shots they had ever seen, and they put my score up on the wall. In basic I had 32mm groupings at 200 meters my first time ever on a range. The things are complete and total shit.

Yes, Op-For is given sim too. SAT ranges do serve a purpose, the arty setup is great to learn call for fire. Some of the senarios are OK too. I find that the range practice are only good just so that you are familiar with how the relays are going to run when you are on the range and to get some of the basics of handeling down, however the accuracy of the SAT weapons cancel that out...

[Arctic_Menace]

This is awesomely hilarious news.

[Canadian_Mind]

SigPig SigPig:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Nothing instills good habits like someone fucking up on a live range. As long as the weapon is pointing downrange when it goes off, which it always should be whether it is loaded or not.

Exactly...as long as it is pointed downrange. And what if it isn't? Do you want to be there when that rifle goes off because Pte Shitpump is being retarded?

The weapon should never be pointed anywhere but downrange. If it is,about ten different range control goons are on his ass kicking the living shit out of him, with or without the ammo loaded. Drill done in the classroom are just as effective as using a SAT trainer at preparing person for the range.

[SigPig]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

SigPig SigPig:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Nothing instills good habits like someone fucking up on a live range. As long as the weapon is pointing downrange when it goes off, which it always should be whether it is loaded or not.

Exactly...as long as it is pointed downrange. And what if it isn't? Do you want to be there when that rifle goes off because Pte Shitpump is being retarded?

The weapon should never be pointed anywhere but downrange. If it is,about ten different range control goons are on his ass kicking the living shit out of him, with or without the ammo loaded. Drill done in the classroom are just as effective as using a SAT trainer at preparing person for the range.

Im in total agreement that the rifle should be pointed down range at all times and that anyone who does otherwise deserves whats coming to him. But SAT ranges allow you to beat that out of people as well as giving them experience with how relays will run in a situation that is, IMO better, then yelling budget cuts at a classroom wall.

[roger-roger]

The gagetown Sats do have their bugs though, they tend to fill with CO2 quickly which is quite annoying....