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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:31 am
If corporations had their way everything, everywhere would carry an infinite copyright.
Whatever happened to fair use, and well fuck, freedom in general? Remember when classic works of art like Dickens became public domain and everyone, everywhere was better off for it? Next thing you know some asshole will be claiming copyright on the Bible, Koran, and the Art of War and we'll all owe a collective 30 trillion in back fines.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 am
This isn't about corporations. This is about the EU government in Europe that wants to silence dissent.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:44 pm
I could live without memes. 
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:47 pm
raydan raydan: I could live without memes.  That would make a great meme.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:53 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: This isn't about corporations. This is about the EU government in Europe that wants to silence dissent. There's that extra chromosome logic again. They're protecting copyrighted information, not silencing the free press, or crushing thought. It's about corporate profits.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:13 am
Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: BartSimpson BartSimpson: This isn't about corporations. This is about the EU government in Europe that wants to silence dissent. There's that extra chromosome logic again. They're protecting copyrighted information, not silencing the free press, or crushing thought. It's about corporate profits. Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Even liberal-left NBC News sees it the same way I do. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/end- ... ng-n885726$1: The end of memes? Campaigners dismayed at European internet ruling
Article 13 of a new E.U. law would place responsibility for enforcing copyright onto platforms rather than individuals, with potentially big implications for internet culture.
LONDON — A means to an end, or an end to memes?
Tech leaders and digital rights activists in Europe have expressed dismay over new rules they say could change the open nature of the internet forever — and potentially kill meme culture.
They have been fighting against Article 13 of the proposed E.U. Copyright Directive, which would place responsibility for enforcing copyright law on websites and platforms, rather than individuals.
It would mean that any website or platform that allows users to post images, footage, sound or code would have to use content recognition technologies — branded "censorship machines" by critics — to filter out just about anything that infringes on a copyright, and either prevent the platform from uploading or push it to seek licenses.
These algorithms could mean that even internet meme culture, in which people use common images to create running jokes, could be unintentionally scuttled.
“I think without a doubt there will be a threat to the way people use memes,” Jim Killock, the executive director of the Open Rights Group, a London-based organization that supports freedom online, told NBC News. “They are clearly reusing copyrighted material, mostly legitimately, but it’s very hard for a machine to know that."
Lawmakers on the European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs voted in favor of the legislation in the directive — most of the rest of which simply updates copyright law — on Thursday morning.
The legislation is primarily intended to prevent online piracy in music and video. However, in addition to memes, it could affect live-streaming, code sharing, and sampling and remixes in music, as well as satire, parody and protest videos.
And Article 13 isn’t the only part of the legislation causing fierce debate.
Article 11 has been dubbed the Publishers' Neighboring Right, and could force Google, Microsoft and other platforms to pay publishers for showing news snippets, or linking to news content in what has been dubbed a “link tax” by opponents, and a further threat to an open internet.
News publishers, however, have welcomed this particular part of the legislation.
In a statement, the European Newspaper Publishers’ Association said the committee’s ruling was “a victory for fairness.”
“The internet is only as useful as the content that populates it,” said Carlo Perrone, the group’s president.
“This Publishers' Neighboring Right will be key to encouraging further investment in professional, diverse, fact-checked content for the enrichment and enjoyment of everyone, everywhere," he said.
The committee’s ruling will probably be the parliament's official stance as it enters into negotiations with E.U. countries on a common position.
However, dissenting lawmakers could still force a parliamentary vote at a general assembly next month. Campaigners against the legislation are therefore turning their attention to members of the European Parliament to make that happen.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:16 am
The EU law is going to run afoul of the US laws regarding Fair Use which make it legal to use copyrighted material for non-commercial editorial purposes.
And when the EU tries to impose their law on the USA I expect President Trump to tell them to go fuck themselves.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:05 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: BartSimpson BartSimpson: This isn't about corporations. This is about the EU government in Europe that wants to silence dissent. There's that extra chromosome logic again. They're protecting copyrighted information, not silencing the free press, or crushing thought. It's about corporate profits. Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Even liberal-left NBC News sees it the same way I do. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/end- ... ng-n885726$1: The end of memes? Campaigners dismayed at European internet ruling
Article 13 of a new E.U. law would place responsibility for enforcing copyright onto platforms rather than individuals, with potentially big implications for internet culture.
LONDON — A means to an end, or an end to memes?
Tech leaders and digital rights activists in Europe have expressed dismay over new rules they say could change the open nature of the internet forever — and potentially kill meme culture.
They have been fighting against Article 13 of the proposed E.U. Copyright Directive, which would place responsibility for enforcing copyright law on websites and platforms, rather than individuals.
It would mean that any website or platform that allows users to post images, footage, sound or code would have to use content recognition technologies — branded "censorship machines" by critics — to filter out just about anything that infringes on a copyright, and either prevent the platform from uploading or push it to seek licenses.
These algorithms could mean that even internet meme culture, in which people use common images to create running jokes, could be unintentionally scuttled.
“I think without a doubt there will be a threat to the way people use memes,” Jim Killock, the executive director of the Open Rights Group, a London-based organization that supports freedom online, told NBC News. “They are clearly reusing copyrighted material, mostly legitimately, but it’s very hard for a machine to know that."
Lawmakers on the European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs voted in favor of the legislation in the directive — most of the rest of which simply updates copyright law — on Thursday morning.
The legislation is primarily intended to prevent online piracy in music and video. However, in addition to memes, it could affect live-streaming, code sharing, and sampling and remixes in music, as well as satire, parody and protest videos.
And Article 13 isn’t the only part of the legislation causing fierce debate.
Article 11 has been dubbed the Publishers' Neighboring Right, and could force Google, Microsoft and other platforms to pay publishers for showing news snippets, or linking to news content in what has been dubbed a “link tax” by opponents, and a further threat to an open internet.
News publishers, however, have welcomed this particular part of the legislation.
In a statement, the European Newspaper Publishers’ Association said the committee’s ruling was “a victory for fairness.”
“The internet is only as useful as the content that populates it,” said Carlo Perrone, the group’s president.
“This Publishers' Neighboring Right will be key to encouraging further investment in professional, diverse, fact-checked content for the enrichment and enjoyment of everyone, everywhere," he said.
The committee’s ruling will probably be the parliament's official stance as it enters into negotiations with E.U. countries on a common position.
However, dissenting lawmakers could still force a parliamentary vote at a general assembly next month. Campaigners against the legislation are therefore turning their attention to members of the European Parliament to make that happen. Holy shit. Where in that article does it say that governments are using the new copyright law to censor people or silence dissent? You really need to stop adding your insane internal schizophrenic voice to what you read.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:07 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: The EU law is going to run afoul of the US laws regarding Fair Use which make it legal to use copyrighted material for non-commercial editorial purposes.
And when the EU tries to impose their law on the USA I expect President Trump to tell them to go fuck themselves. Lol. Yeah that's not how the Internet works. What will happen if it's passed is, much like GDPR, Internet search engines and major websites will cater to the most stringent laws because trying to ensure something legal in the USA isn't shown to someone in Europe is just too difficult. Nothing Trump can do about it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:32 am
Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: Nothing Trump can do about it. Except link the issue to tariff negotiations. Or something else like it.
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Prof_Chomsky
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:55 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky: Nothing Trump can do about it. Except link the issue to tariff negotiations. Or something else like it. I can see it now Trump via Twitter “I demand you change the very nature of how the internet works so memes don’t die in America!” The World:  I'm also especially appreciative that you don't even bother trying to recover from blatantly lying about "the government silencing dissent" in your very last post.
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