CKA Forums
Login 
canadian forums
bottom
 
 
Canadian Forums

Author Topic Options
Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Vancouver Canucks
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 30650
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:57 am
 


Title: Alberta judge slams use of 'Reid' interrogation technique in Calgary police investigation
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2012-09-11 11:26:31
Canadian


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Montreal Canadiens
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 33691
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:57 am
 


Gee, when did Alberta judges become such a bunch of pussies ?


Hi criminal, what's your name ?

"Fuck you"

What's your address ?

"Go to hell"


Ok, let her go, we got nothing.


:roll:


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 33492
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:03 pm
 


So the police already know this is a criminal, ie guilty, rather than a suspect and can just keep pushing until the "criminal" tells them what they want to hear? How convenient. We can just fire all those pussy judges, since the cops already know the person is guilty and just have to break them down to prove it. Think of the savings.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 23084
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:10 pm
 


Yeah, Martin, because everyone knows that everyone the police arrest and/or question are guilty, right? :roll:

Did you bother to even read the article, or just bitch about it? My guess is the latter, based on the fact that this article is about a DAY CARE OPERATOR, not some crack dealer or career criminal. But you'd know that, because you read it, right? :wink:

$1:
The ruling last month by Provincial Court Judge Mike Dinkel stems from a case in which a day-care operator was charged with aggravated assault after a child in her care suffered a serious head injury.

Dinkel said Calgary police subjected Christa Lynn Chapple to an eight-hour interview and interrogation that “had all the appearances of a desperate investigative team that was bent on extracting a confession at any cost.”

Even though the accused asserted at least 24 times that she wanted to remain silent, Detective Karla Malsam-Dudar disregarded that right, continuing to prolong the interview with lengthy monologues, constant interruptions and persistent questioning.

The accused’s free will was overborne to the point where she told police what they wanted to hear, the judge concluded.


Based on your asinine response, you may want to live in that kind of society, but most Canadians sure as hell don't.


Last edited by bootlegga on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:12 am, edited 1 time in total.




PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:30 pm
 


I suppose the Karl Rove thing to do is to lambaste DrCaleb for hating cops, and wanting criminals on the street. Clearly, since he submitted the article he's in full agreement with whatever slant the headline may have.

$1:
The ruling last month by Provincial Court Judge Mike Dinkel stems from a case in which a day-care operator was charged with aggravated assault after a child in her care suffered a serious head injury.

Dinkel said Calgary police subjected Christa Lynn Chapple to an eight-hour interview and interrogation that “had all the appearances of a desperate investigative team that was bent on extracting a confession at any cost.”

Even though the accused asserted at least 24 times that she wanted to remain silent, Detective Karla Malsam-Dudar disregarded that right, continuing to prolong the interview with lengthy monologues, constant interruptions and persistent questioning.

The judge deemed Chapple’s confession inadmissible and dismissed the charges against her.


That's an average of every 20 minutes for 8 hours. What did she confess to eventually, beating the kid? Or some kind of negligence? I bet she'd confess to kidnapping the Lindbergh baby if they gave it enough time.

It's interesting, but I hope she's not getting away with a real crime because of bad policing.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Boston Bruins


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 11907
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:37 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
I suppose the Karl Rove thing to do is to lambaste DrCaleb for hating cops, and wanting criminals on the street. Clearly, since he submitted the article he's in full agreement with whatever slant the headline may have.


No it wouldn't, because DrC is not a political hack with an agenda. :roll: You just don't get it.

$1:
That's an average of every 20 minutes for 8 hours. What did she confess to eventually, beating the kid? Or some kind of negligence? I bet she'd confess to kidnapping the Lindbergh baby if they gave it enough time.


This is where I agree with you. This is the same type of questioning that was done to some young children in Saskatchewan many years ago that lead to over half a town being accused of child abuse. The kids got tired of being pestered and just starting saying anything to make the inquisition stop.

In my younger days, when I was a budding criminal, my answer to this type of questioning by police was to fall asleep. :lol:


Offline
Forum Super Elite
Forum Super Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 2366
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:04 pm
 


"Even though the accused asserted at least 24 times that she wanted to remain silent, Detective Karla Malsam-Dudar disregarded that right, continuing to prolong the interview with lengthy monologues, constant interruptions and persistent questioning."

It can be hard to ignore people for that long, I wish that the police would respect someone's right to not make a statement, but in the end people need to learn how to just sit and be slient.

I also wish that part of our education included instruction on how to talk to the police (something you should never do), and a more detailed look at someone's rights and obligations when being arrested or just being 'questioned'.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 15681
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:53 pm
 


Nothing wrong with asking questions. Keeping somebody for 8 hours who is saying 'no comment' for the full 8 hours seems a bit excessive though. I bet he won't be doing it again. That's beauty of our system. Judicial checks on police powers serves everybody well.


Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 19 guests



cron
 
     
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © Canadaka.net. Powered by © phpBB.