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Title: Alberta brewers hope tax mark-up won�t leave them tapped out | Calgary Herald
Category: Business
Posted By: Alta_redneck
Date: 2016-07-14 06:36:55
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[Alta_redneck]

Now I see why they hired 43000 more government workers, just to manage stupidity like this.

Set up one team to take money away and then set up another to give it back.

[shockedcanadian]

Free market, laisse-faire economics has passed Canada by from coast to coast.

Who pays for this tax increase? The consumer. Always.

The point about the problems competing an accessing Ontario's market is a legitimate one. The feds have to work hard to get rid of these absurd trade barriers across provinces, let trade flow freely and encourage cross provincial competition and market access.

[DrCaleb]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

Now I see why they hired 43000 more government workers, just to manage stupidity like this.

What have you been smoking? Or have you been listening to Ezra again?

There has been basically no hiring in Government for years. And there are only ~30,000 people in the government to begin with! I think we would have notice around here if we suddenly doubled in size.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableau ... 5b-eng.htm

Instead, 1/3 of the offices on this and most other floors are empty.

[DrCaleb]

Ahh, I see! You read this headline, didn't actually read it or research it, and believed it!

http://www.therebel.media/statscan_albe ... nment_jobs

Here's a hint - there was no such StatsCan report.

[shockedcanadian]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, I see! You read this headline, didn't actually read it or research it, and believed it!

http://www.therebel.media/statscan_albe ... nment_jobs

Here's a hint - there was no such StatsCan report.

Instinctively I didn't believe that number either. 43000 is a hell of a lot of people to hire for any agency let alone a province.

[DrCaleb]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Ahh, I see! You read this headline, didn't actually read it or research it, and believed it!

http://www.therebel.media/statscan_albe ... nment_jobs

Here's a hint - there was no such StatsCan report.

Instinctively I didn't believe that number either. 43000 is a hell of a lot of people to hire for any agency let alone a province.

Me either. Knowing there has been a hiring freeze here since the Redford days also set off the alarms. So I looked for the StatsCan report, and found that once again, Ezra makes his stories up out of thin air. And then pretends to be a 'journalist'.

That said, I don't see this levy on beer to be a problem, other than the amount. Before you were a 'craft' brewery if you brewed less than X million liters per year. So you paid $Y per liter in levy. So Albertan and the rest of Canada paid different levies. That's not fair.

Now everyone pays the same. That's fair. $1.25 per liter might be a bit high. But as beer blogger Jason Foster said:

$1:

Foster, the beer educator, said the fact that Alberta has the only privatized liquor system means that the market is completely open, unlike Ontario and B.C., which control what gets imported into their provinces.

"Alberta breweries have been at a disadvantage because anybody can come into the Alberta market," he said.

Foster says he thinks the grant may even the field and make Alberta breweries more competitive.

$1:

"We're treating all beer the same," Finance Minister Joe Ceci said Tuesday. "If you're producing beer and it's coming into this province, everyone's being treated the same."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3676292

Fucking NDP.

[peck420]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

$1:

"We're treating all beer the same," Finance Minister Joe Ceci said Tuesday. "If you're producing beer and it's coming into this province, everyone's being treated the same."

Fucking NDP.

As much as I dislike the way the NDP are handling this, Minister Ceci's comments are correct.

If we ever want all the provinces to get along, and to trade freely, everybody has to be treated the same, regardless of geographical location.

[DrCaleb]

peck420 peck420:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

$1:

"We're treating all beer the same," Finance Minister Joe Ceci said Tuesday. "If you're producing beer and it's coming into this province, everyone's being treated the same."

Fucking NDP.

As much as I dislike the way the NDP are handling this, Minister Ceci's comments are correct.

If we ever want all the provinces to get along, and to trade freely, everybody has to be treated the same, regardless of geographical location.

I agree. I use the statement 'Fucking NDP' whenever they do something for the good of the public or economy, but everyone bitches about it anyway just our of pure partisanship.

[Alta_redneck]

AUPE AUPE AUPE AUPE

[bootlegga]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

Now I see why they hired 43000 more government workers, just to manage stupidity like this.

What have you been smoking? Or have you been listening to Ezra again?

There has been basically no hiring in Government for years. And there are only ~30,000 people in the government to begin with! I think we would have notice around here if we suddenly doubled in size.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableau ... 5b-eng.htm

Instead, 1/3 of the offices on this and most other floors are empty.

The problem is that some people just believe everything they hear, without actually doing any fact-checking.

If anyone just clicked on the Alberta jobs website, they'd see this:

$1:

*** The Government of Alberta is currently in a hiring restraint. As a result, job opportunities are limited.
Available opportunities are posted on our website.
Thank you for your interest in employment with the Government of Alberta. ***

https://jobs.alberta.ca/

While the hiring restraint isn't as strict as it was under Stelmach/Redford, which at times had only a handful of jobs, there are far less jobs listed than when times were 'good' under King Ralph.

[DrCaleb]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

AUPE AUPE AUPE AUPE

Reposting Ezra's fiction still doesn't make it true.

bootlegga bootlegga:

While the hiring restraint isn't as strict as it was under Stelmach/Redford, which at times had only a handful of jobs, there are far less jobs listed than when times were 'good' under King Ralph.

It's pretty strict! We lost the CFO to retirement, and her duties simply got absorbed by the CTO. She won't be 'backfilled', although the policy is to keep positions deemed 'critical' filled with warm bodies. On my team, we've lost 3 people to other departments, 2 of which I'd say were 'critical' as now their functions are performed by only 1 person, so there is no backup.

I count 12 cubes on one floor on one side of a fairly small building, as empty.

But I guess we more than doubled our size, if Ezra says it's true.

[Alta_redneck]

Sorry fellas I don't have a dog fucker's gov job and don't have time to surf the net all day, I'm sure we could do without a lot of them if this is a prime example of working your ass of at a Government job.

[DrCaleb]

"If you throw dirt, your you're losing ground."

[2Cdo]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

AUPE AUPE AUPE AUPE

Reposting Ezra's fiction still doesn't make it true.

bootlegga bootlegga:

While the hiring restraint isn't as strict as it was under Stelmach/Redford, which at times had only a handful of jobs, there are far less jobs listed than when times were 'good' under King Ralph.

It's pretty strict! We lost the CFO to retirement, and her duties simply got absorbed by the CTO. She won't be 'backfilled', although the policy is to keep positions deemed 'critical' filled with warm bodies. On my team, we've lost 3 people to other departments, 2 of which I'd say were 'critical' as now their functions are performed by only 1 person, so there is no backup.

I count 12 cubes on one floor on one side of a fairly small building, as empty.

But I guess we more than doubled our size, if Ezra says it's true.

Just thinking that not all provincial government jobs work only in your building.