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Title: Abu Bakr Baghdadi, Islamic State leader, raped American hostage Kayla Mueller, U.S. intel finds
Category: World
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2015-08-14 15:32:48

[GreenTiger]

so much for Islamic moral superiority.

[llama66]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

so much for Islamic moral superiority.

ISIS is as muslim as I am. They are a bunch of fucking savage animals. The day will come when they are put down.

[N_Fiddledog]

Well they are Muslim in that they follow Islamic doctrine to the letter.

There's nothing they do you can't find Mohammedan authorization for.

With Pu Pakr raping his captives, for example. He's supposed to do that. Mohammed did it (a lot). Mohammed is described as the most perfect of men and they are specifically commanded to emulate him.

Also they would tell you the sexual use of captives is specifically endorsed and expected by Koranic doctrine. Female captives such as Kayla are enslaved and are described as "what your right hand possesses." Mohammed told his followers to use them for sex.

The basic principle handed down directly in words from Mohammed as far as what to do with "those your right hand possesses" is they are to do what Pu Pakr did to Kayla. (Apparently a lot)

[BRAH]

ISLAM IS AS ISLAM DOES.

[N_Fiddledog]

[xerxes]

He doesn't exactly follow the teachings of his namesake though:

[N_Fiddledog]

There's this story about after one of Mohammed's raids he ordered his men to line up all the males and behead the ones sprouting pubic hair. A bald wee wee would save you.

So I don't know, maybe Pu Pakr is being Mohammedan with the "save the child thing." I know Mohammed prefered to keep the women alive.

I'm not up on the environmental stuff, but out of the corner of my eye I remember thinking Mohammed was kind of green.

Oh wait, did you mean that's a quote from Mohammed's buddy? Pu Pakr #1?

Same thing only different.

[xerxes]

Yeah. The first Abu Bakr.

[Thanos]

I'd have to suggest that the government begin issuing travel bans on aid workers to keep them out of these places. It's not blaming the victims but when at least a couple dozen of them by now have been murdered by these psychos the only thing to keep them safe is to not let them travel to Syria or Iraq anymore.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Mohammed is described as the most perfect of men

Actually in Islam there have only been two perfect men. Adam, as he was created before the fall, and Jesus as created by the Spirit/Word of God(Qur'an 66:12) who was born free of sin and remained so. This is one of the key beliefs that allowed for many early Christians in the ME to readily accept Islam.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Mohammed is described as the most perfect of men

Actually in Islam there have only been two perfect men. Adam, as he was created before the fall, and Jesus as created by the Spirit/Word of God(Qur'an 66:12) who was born free of sin and remained so. This is one of the key beliefs that allowed for many early Christians in the ME to readily accept Islam.

Well actually, if we're getting technical "most perfect" is bad English isn't it? So bad me. I slap my hand and blush.

However if we are speaking within the accepted Islamic understanding of terms I'm going to propose the common reference of "al-Insān al-Kāmil" is most often identified with Mohammed and refers to "the perfect human".

He is also referred to as "uswa hasana (an excellent model of conduct)."

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Uswa_Hasana

In fact check that link out. There's an interesting argument at the bottom on whether Surah 80 shows Mohammed to be imperfect.

Concerning 66:12 - As I understand that one it seems to suggest that in spite of Mary's virginity, God (or is it angel Gabriel through God?) blows the spirit of God into Mary impregnating her. Isa (Christ) is eventually born as "a sign" or "a portent", or "a token" (depending on the translation). Does that mean perfection? I don't know. I'd have to see the argument.

What I do know is it's not just me who talks about the "perfection" of Mohammed or how his commands must be obeyed throughout time, and his behavior is to be emulated.

I think I like this description on where the term "perfect" fits best myself.

$1:

The legend of Muhammad in the eyes of the masses of the Muslim peoples, however, is often far removed from the original. After his death simple stories about his life became embellished with folklore, projecting him as a great miracle-worker, as a sinless prophet who was a perfect model for all mankind, as a living person who could appear in dreams and bless pious Muslims, and as the first and foremost of all God's creatures whose light had been created before anything else. His image had been changed from that of a prophetic statesman and warrior to that of a saint and mystical philanthropist.

[snip]

Not only is the name of Muhammad revered throughout the Muslim world but his very personality is regarded as a perfect archetype of human conduct and behaviour. For centuries faithful Muslims have sought to emulate the sunnah of the Prophet, namely his way of life and example. A text of the Qur'an is taken as the basis of this express purpose to follow him in every aspect of his character and life:

~ You have indeed in the Apostle of Allah a beautiful pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and who engages much in the praise of Allah. Surah 33:2 ~1

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/ ... pter5.html

But here's what Wikipedia has to say on Mohammed as Al-Insān al-Kāmil.

$1:

In Islamic theology, al-Insān al-Kāmil (Arabic: الإنسان الكامل‎) also rendered as Insān-i Kāmil (Persian/Urdu: انسان کامل) and İnsan-ı Kâmil (Turkish), is a term used as an honorific title to describe Muhammad. The phrase means "the person who has reached perfection."[1] It is an important concept in Islamic culture of the prototype human being, pure consciousness, one's true identity, to be contrasted with the material human who is bound by one's senses and materialism. The term is particularly used by Alawis, Alevis and Sufis,[2] such as Ibn Arabi,[2] who based this on the Hadith.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ins%C4 ... K%C4%81mil