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Title: 91% vs. 47%: Why vaccination rates are so different in these neighbouring Alberta towns
Category: Health
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2017-02-21 06:48:36
Canadian

[uwish]

another reason why religion poison's everything.

[BartSimpson]

Before you jump on the "any excuse to hate Christians" bandwagon you might want to stop for a fact check:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/who-a ... le/2560647

The populist hate against anti-vaxxers dropped from the US media when the facts were found out that the homeschoolers who were against vaccines were not Christians but instead were primarily secular liberal believers in holistic medical practices.

Most of the anti-vaxxers in California are concentrated in ultra-liberal and upper class Marin County - across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. They are not fundie Christians.

These people are highly educated, secular, and they advocate herbal and Eastern medical practices as superior to Western medicine.

[Tricks]

Weird, it's almost like the article is about a town in Albert, not California.

[Thanos]

It's moronic not to get immunized, regardless if one is letting a church or a clown celebrity like Jenny McCarthy or Robert DeNiro do their thinking for them.

[BartSimpson]

Tricks Tricks:

Weird, it's almost like the article is about a town in Albert, not California.

Indeed. But in either case just blaming 'religion' isn't accurate.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

It's moronic not to get immunized, regardless if one is letting a church or a clown celebrity like Jenny McCarthy or Robert DeNiro do their thinking for them.

Depends on the risk factors involved and it depends on the efficacy and potential side effects of the vaccine.

The H1N1 vaccine that was pushed with a near-religious fervor turned out to have one very detrimental side effect:

People who took the vaccine doubled their chances of contracting the disease.

Meaning you were better off without the vaccine.

The combined MMR vaccine is indisputably linked to higher mortality rates among infants and toddlers and in a growing number of countries like Japan, France, and Israel the combined vaccine is banned or discouraged. The proven method of independently vaccinating for measles, mumps, and rubella is preferred.

Just because it's called a 'vaccine' doesn't mean it can't kill you or your children. It's no different than any other product produced by the pharmaceutical companies.

If it's safe then fine. But don't just assume it's safe.

[Thanos]

My niece is puking her gut out today from the flu. I'm not because I got immunized. Case closed.

This is something unique to our generation. A group of people who have benefited the most from vaccines, who never went through the horrors of whooping cough, polio, or a dozen other terrible diseases, are the ones who gave birth to a moronic movement of science-deniers pitching home remedies and toxic naturopathy that didn't work worth a damn a century ago before the vaccines were even invented. All for a cause led by celebrity idiots and exiles from the real medical community that were defrocked and disbarred because the poisonous garbage they're now pushing is an actual violation of the Hippocratic Oath that says "first do no harm" to those under your care.

Ironic? Or merely obscene?

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

My niece is puking her gut out today from the flu. I'm not because I got immunized. Case closed.

I haven't had a day off because of the flu or cold in years. My colleague across the hall takes 2 weeks sometimes, as her young daughter gets sick at school and brings it home. One week taking care of the youngling, one week feeling it herself.

I always get my flu shot, usually the first day it's available. If it's 'Gods will' that I get the flu, then no vaccine will stop it.

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[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

the real medical community

That is now pumping out drugs without the 30 years of research,
because the industry needs the profit.
It ain't what it used to be.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I haven't had a day off because of the flu or cold in years.

Neither have I, but I can't remember the last time I had a flu shot.
Many, many... decades.

[fifeboy]

I have been getting the flu shot for many years. They gave them away to teachers in the town I lived in. Really saved one from snuffling sneezing grade 7's. But this year I got a shingles shot, a flu shot and a tetnus booster, all within two weeks. Boy did I feel poorly for a week or two. But, beats the hell out of the flu.

[herbie]

$1:

Indeed. But in either case just blaming 'religion' isn't accurate.

Except that in the story quoted (and the other referred within it) it IS entirely accurate.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Tricks Tricks:

Weird, it's almost like the article is about a town in Albert, not California.

Indeed. But in either case just blaming 'religion' isn't accurate.

$1:

It's a small sect but one that's connected to the large Dutch community in town. Its leaders have been known to describe vaccinations as a sort of interference with God's will.

Solely to blame? Probably not. Contributing? That I can believe.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I haven't had a day off because of the flu or cold in years.

I haven't had the flu since the last time I had a flu shot. That's nine years now.