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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:32 am
And so it begins... before it starts.
Shame.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:40 am
Why not get tough with doping... life ban and retroactively removing all of the athlete's results.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:03 am
raydan raydan: Why not get tough with doping... life ban and retroactively removing all of the athlete's results. Because then people might actually clean up, and then the world records would stop falling like dominos and all the tv and sponsorship money would dry up.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:11 am
On the plus side, this would eliminate pretty much all athletes... then they'd have no choice but to enlist the fatties of the world. Not only would it be fun to watch, but we'd have the added benefit of getting them back into shape. ...mind you, they might lose a lot of them to heart attacks, strokes and unfortunate accidents in certain sports such as biking, rowing and weight lifting... to name a few. 
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:13 am
And because a lot of the doping rules are bullshit. Marijuana a performance enhancing drug? Caffeine is OK if drunk in coffee, but not if taken as a pill? Etc. Heard a biochemist talk about this on Quirks and Quarks. He says that steroids, for instance, do nothing for a male athlete because he's already in top physical condition. Women athletes do get benefits from them. He had some sensible sounding solutions about what to ban and what not.
Personally I think it's like the drug trade - the abusers will always be one step ahead of the investigators. Just allow any and all drugs to be used, and just pasture out the burned out athletes along with the race horses. Maybe enter them in chuckwagon races.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:22 pm
andyt andyt: And because a lot of the doping rules are bullshit. Marijuana a performance enhancing drug? Caffeine is OK if drunk in coffee, but not if taken as a pill? Etc. Heard a biochemist talk about this on Quirks and Quarks. He says that steroids, for instance, do nothing for a male athlete because he's already in top physical condition. Women athletes do get benefits from them. He had some sensible sounding solutions about what to ban and what not.
Personally I think it's like the drug trade - the abusers will always be one step ahead of the investigators. Just allow any and all drugs to be used, and just pasture out the burned out athletes along with the race horses. Maybe enter them in chuckwagon races. Ooo, chuckwagons pulled by washed out athletes. That might be entertaining! 
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:47 pm
andyt andyt: Heard a biochemist talk about this on Quirks and Quarks. He says that steroids, for instance, do nothing for a male athlete because he's already in top physical condition. The fuck?
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:04 pm
andyt andyt: Heard a biochemist talk about this on Quirks and Quarks. He says that steroids, for instance, do nothing for a male athlete because he's already in top physical condition. It's apparent this twit didn't see Ben Johnson in his prime. If what he says was true, the NFL would be the cleanest sport this side of the Sisters of Serentity lawn bowling team. Here are just a few of the benefits of taking steroids. Increased Muscle Strength Increased Body Size(See Seabiscut and Ben Johnson for clarification) Increased Healing Rate http://www.livestrong.com/article/10485 ... -athletes/Yup no advantage there. 
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:35 pm
Unsound Unsound: raydan raydan: Why not get tough with doping... life ban and retroactively removing all of the athlete's results. Because then people might actually clean up, and then the world records would stop falling like dominos and all the tv and sponsorship money would dry up. Agreed. Watching the Olympics just gets harder and harder.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:11 pm
I remember watching the clip from the '88 race and the commentators talking about how much Johnson had bulked up. Just curious about how far we can push the human body. In the end, even with steroids, the muscles don't magically appear, they have to train just as hard to build the new mass.Send some guy out on the track pumped full of steroids with blood that looks like pop because it has so much extra O2 in it and find out how fast that SOB can go. For an extra kick pump him full of coke and/or meth.......Columbia takes its 40th gold  ....Also in the news, American INS agents continue to search for the Mexican Track team that blazed across the border and disappeared before officials could intervene. Agent Bubba Jones was quoted as saying, 'Those Greasers were.... greased lightning!!'. Also in other related news Olympic Gold medalist from China Kuh Ching, has ssuccessfully undergone his fourth heart and kidney transplant, freely donated by a citizen of the glorious People's Republic
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:12 pm
I love the SNL skit of the All Drug Olympics. At the end after the Russian weighlifter loses his arms, Dennis says, "And of course, Canada is leading that competition". And yes andy, marijuana is a performance enhancing drug. But it's usually used by snow boarders during the Winter Olympics 
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:23 pm
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andyt
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:34 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: andyt andyt: Heard a biochemist talk about this on Quirks and Quarks. He says that steroids, for instance, do nothing for a male athlete because he's already in top physical condition. It's apparent this twit didn't see Ben Johnson in his prime. If what he says was true, the NFL would be the cleanest sport this side of the Sisters of Serentity lawn bowling team. Here are just a few of the benefits of taking steroids. Increased Muscle Strength Increased Body Size(See Seabiscut and Ben Johnson for clarification) Increased Healing Rate http://www.livestrong.com/article/10485 ... -athletes/Yup no advantage there.  http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/episode/2012/0 ... e-23-2012/ About 3:45
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:53 am
raydan raydan: Why not get tough with doping... life ban and retroactively removing all of the athlete's results. This. No second chances, at the very least it would decrease doping. Andy raises a good point though, there needs to be a stricter definition on what enhances performance. Pot might have some competitive advantage, but any trace of it, given how detectable it is, can't possibly be grounds for doping.
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