Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
"rickc" said Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
"rickc" said Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
+5 for being truly 'fair and balanced'. I appreciate that.
As to what happened here I personally do not assign any blame to Canada's gun policies (pro or con) for the reason indictaed by the child's name: 'Kesean' which is a version of the more popular 'Keshawn'.
This name and it's 'creative' spelling are indicative of the child coming from a low-income American black family and while the emotional impetus here is to blame former residents of the townhouse, it is also just as likely that this boy's 15-year old brother is linked to the shooter(s).
Where the family had just moved in it is entirely possible that the teenage brother was seen as 'moving in' on the gang territory of a gang he was not connected to. Thus the shooting. We see this kind of thing all the time down here so forgive me if I come off as a little bit indifferent. I'm not. Really. It's just it's hard to get emotional when this same kind of thing happens hundreds of times a year down here.
In sum, I do not see this event as a Canadian gun problem but as the same kind of violent cultural problem that predominates in American cities with large, low-income black populations.
"rickc" said Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
I was the one who posted that comment. I was getting a little fed up with people new threads to carry on the saem argument. One thread to argue gun control in the US is plenty.
Other than that your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
The US has set such a high bar, that one kid getting shot isn't really news anymore. Well, it's news because it happened in Canada. How many kids have been shot in the US since Sandyhook? 919 people have died by the gun since then in the US. 14 children aged 0 - 13.
"andyt" said The US has set such a high bar, that one kid getting shot isn't really news anymore. Well, it's news because it happened in Canada. How many kids have been shot in the US since Sandyhook? 919 people have died by the gun since then in the US. 14 children aged 0 - 13.
Desert Dude managed to kill more with his intercontinental swimming pools.
"rickc" said Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
-5 for making this political, utterly sickening that you would try and make this about gun control.
The silence was called respect and as Public Domain put it, up here in Canada, we're very fortunate that this is an isolated event, unlike in your country.
"Public_Domain" said Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
How sad and horrible for this family.
RIP Kesean
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
RIP.
Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
+5 for being truly 'fair and balanced'. I appreciate that.
As to what happened here I personally do not assign any blame to Canada's gun policies (pro or con) for the reason indictaed by the child's name: 'Kesean' which is a version of the more popular 'Keshawn'.
This name and it's 'creative' spelling are indicative of the child coming from a low-income American black family and while the emotional impetus here is to blame former residents of the townhouse, it is also just as likely that this boy's 15-year old brother is linked to the shooter(s).
Where the family had just moved in it is entirely possible that the teenage brother was seen as 'moving in' on the gang territory of a gang he was not connected to. Thus the shooting. We see this kind of thing all the time down here so forgive me if I come off as a little bit indifferent. I'm not. Really. It's just it's hard to get emotional when this same kind of thing happens hundreds of times a year down here.
In sum, I do not see this event as a Canadian gun problem but as the same kind of violent cultural problem that predominates in American cities with large, low-income black populations.
Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
I was the one who posted that comment. I was getting a little fed up with people new threads to carry on the saem argument. One thread to argue gun control in the US is plenty.
Other than that your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
The US has set such a high bar, that one kid getting shot isn't really news anymore. Well, it's news because it happened in Canada. How many kids have been shot in the US since Sandyhook? 919 people have died by the gun since then in the US. 14 children aged 0 - 13.
Desert Dude managed to kill more with his intercontinental swimming pools.
Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
-5 for making this political, utterly sickening that you would try and make this about gun control.
The silence was called respect and as Public Domain put it, up here in Canada, we're very fortunate that this is an isolated event, unlike in your country.
Its a tragedy when anyone gets killed minding their own business watching tv in their home. Its always much worse when it is a young child with his whole life ahead of him. This shooting took place Wedsday. Its Friday. Two people have commented on it. Two. If this kid had been shot in the States, this thread would be 10 pages by now. All the usual suspects would be here chiming in about the decline of American cizilization. There would be endless posts about how its all the right wings fault. Posts about how law abiding citizens are to blame for not wanting to give up their rights or weopons. The NRA, and Ted Nugent would be villified.
The other day in one of the threads about gun violence in America, a poster asked: "what does this have to do with Canada?" Well here we a gun death that has everything to do with Canada. A nine year old boy was shot and killed in his home while watching tv. In Canada. I have to say the silence is deafening. Where is all the moral outrage from the left that was being voiced on threads about gunshot victems in the States?
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
I'd rep if I could!
You want people to share the same sentiments here, or do you mean this in a sort of "Clearly our gun registry has done nothing to solve something like this, so it's ineffective" kind of argument, assuming the left doesn't want to approach the subject do to some belief that Canada's attitude towards guns is adequate? This comment is very sad, since you want to provoke and incite a childish bickering for nothing really other than some level of vindication.
One would think people could be happy that an issue hasn't become politicized, rather than wishing for an equal degeneration of conversation just to satisfy the need to stick it to the leftists who attack the United States on a constant basis. I understand your "point", but the point is just not something anyone really should care about. The point is disgusting.
Just as with most gun death threads, I loathe to comment here. Even this response is sure to abound this thread with the idiocy we've come to constantly expect from all sides on this matter.
If you want a real reason for why I don't think this is as "controversial", it's because there isn't a conflict. That's the principle feature that a news story needs in order to be sensationalist and deeply discussed. It needs to be a drivel piece of shit story that starts going off about gun control. Where they decide they absolutely need the opinions of some "pro-gun" jack-off and some "anti-gun" dumbass in order to properly convey the story of a murdered child.
In Canada, the debate is far more diminished in the United States. So much so that the only gun debate that usually happens in Canada is in direct connection to the United States, due to media saturation, cultural obsession, etc. Gun deaths happen in Canada, but there's really no debate had, except for a very non-highlighted few. A couple people call for tougher gun control in Canada, and a few people respond back. But this is no fight between the Second Amendment and a perceived need to address a sickness in society. That is an American debate.
Here, a child dies, and we can't help but be thankful that it is a rare event.
I'd rep if I could!
Done.