 Layton: Feds involved in 'biggest theft in Canadian history' The federal government is stealing money from the country's employment insurance fund that should rightfully belong to Canadian workers, federal NDP Leader Jack Layton said Thursday.Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 2 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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Do and say whatever you need to get and stay in power?
the fact is the employment insurance fund has been running a surplus since the libs were in.. now the torys are stealing the money..go figure.. thousands who pay EI will never collect it..
it should be refunded to tax paying Canadians.. but I suppose harper needs it to finance the so called war in Afghanistan.. ooops I mean the restructuring and rebuilding of a Musim nation....
I don't see any story.
The only government I heard stealing money from the EI fund was Paul Martin's.
http://www.nupge.ca/news_2007/n09ma07c.htm
That was a year ago. More money "stolen" since then in direct contradiction to them howling about the Liberals doing it.
Like this?
http://www.nupge.ca/news_2007/n09ma07c.htm
That was a year ago. More money "stolen" since then in direct contradiction to them howling about the Liberals doing it.
That all you have?
The dispute, which goes back to the days of then-finance minister Paul Martin's drive to wipe out the deficit, is already being billed as a landmark case that could be one of the most significant in Canadian history.
The trial will shine the spotlight on the behind-the-scene machinations and negotiations of senior officials at Treasury Board and the powerful Finance Department who were at loggerheads over just who owned the exploding pension surplus -- the government, its employees or both. The law governing the workers' pension plan is silent on who owns any surplus.
In 1999, the government passed Bill C-78 to phase out the pension plans of public servants, the military and the RCMP and replace it with a new one to be invested in the financial markets. The controversy revolved around the clauses that gave the government the unfettered right to take the plan's surplus to help pay down the debt.
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawaciti ... cc988c6edc
Oh yea that's right, most of them wouldn't vote for him on a freakin dare, so I guess they don't matter.
Nice try Jack, even your selective smear campaign won't change the reality that you and your ilk will never get voted in.
I see it as a very simple procession, the arrival to the idea that the government has no right to use the surplus, or at least, no ownership of it. They start up EI, they explain it to the Canadian people, and upon being told what it is for, we okay the taking of our money. They say it will be used for one thing, we agreed, fine. When there is some left over, there is outside of EI based things that they have a right to use it for without asking the population. That leaves them with two "right" choices. Give the money back, which is actually something I'm not normally in favor of since I belief in a highly taxed, highly governed country. Or, they could hold a referendum and us what to do with it, which I know would be expensive.
They did take the money, though, so there is little we can do about that. They put it in the national debt though, which is cool. The more money the put into that, the more money they will have in later years, the easier it will be to pay off the money they took from the fund. I can live with that. A "get out of owing us money card free!" is a bit of a blow to the groin at this point.
did it become stealing once it was the Conservatives doing it and not the Libs?
No it didn't, in fact the other way round according to most of the cons. We dealt with this subject last year when I used the above information against the cons screaming about how the Libs stole the money.
I have always held that its not stealing by either party because EI contributions are deducted from from federal taxes owing.
ridenhack suggested that no such complaint existed against the CPC which is a lie.
The CPC after screaming bloody murder over the Liberals doing it turned around and did the same thing only to a greater scale.
They and any con not condemning the CPC for it are hypocrites.
I'm not bothered by the CPC doing it but I will call them and their supporters hypocrites for doing it when they screamed about the Liberals doing it.