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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:34 am
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And guys like you have turned competitive sports into a politically correct exercise where everyone get's a medal because they competed.

Life isn't fair and sports used to be a conduit for people to prepare for the disappointment's and rigours of life but, with that type of attitude in the ultra competitive world of high school sports in America you'd be one of the first ones left behind.

What I really find interesting is that you have come on here and crapped all over people who disagreed with you so, here's the 64 thousand dollar question.


I've only crapped on you. You have an old-school mentality. You'd make a terrible coach then and now.

I don't believe in the 'everyone gets a medal'. In fact, I hate it that my girls soccer team doesn't keep score. Drives me nuts.

I've been coaching competitive hockey and house league for the last 5-6 years. I've been on both ends of this type of scenario.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
How do you win with class in a case like this because, nowhere have I seen you give us an example of how coach Anderson should have handled the situation especially since once the game started there was likely no way he could have changed the outrageous outcome without telling his team to quit which, pretty much goes against the grain of every athletic event I've ever seen and would have been more embarrassing to the Bloomington girls than a lopsided loss?


Then you haven't been reading much above. I have posted some examples and have liked another that someone else posted.

Again, they didn't let up. You don't have to give up, but you don't have to rain down points on a team at an outrageous pace.

Again, you have an out-of-date mentality when it comes to kids sports so I don't expect you to get any of that....or care.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:42 am
 


The coach was suspended to keep the heat off the league. Oldest one in the book. Throw the lowest guy under the bus. The game never should have happened to start with.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:00 am
 


I'm at a total loss here.
So a coach who coaches his team well and is simply a team that kicks ass (hence the 80-19 win without Anderson) is being punished for being awesome.

The team does not belong in a league that cannot give them any play, so move them up. This is not fun for anyone, but to punish a coach?
Fire the other coaches for being bad!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:38 am
 


Brenda Brenda:
I'm at a total loss here.
So a coach who coaches his team well and is simply a team that kicks ass (hence the 80-19 win without Anderson) is being punished for being awesome.

The team does not belong in a league that cannot give them any play, so move them up. This is not fun for anyone, but to punish a coach?
Fire the other coaches for being bad!


Coaches can't teach talent.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:02 am
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Coaches can't teach talent.


Pffft! You must be a lousy coach then. I teach my kids talent all the time.

(joking.. for once, me and you are on the same page).


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Also never confuse ability with enthusiasm. :lol:


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And guys like you have turned competitive sports into a politically correct exercise where everyone get's a medal because they competed.

Life isn't fair and sports used to be a conduit for people to prepare for the disappointment's and rigours of life but, with that type of attitude in the ultra competitive world of high school sports in America you'd be one of the first ones left behind.

What I really find interesting is that you have come on here and crapped all over people who disagreed with you so, here's the 64 thousand dollar question.


I've only crapped on you. You have an old-school mentality. You'd make a terrible coach then and now.

I don't believe in the 'everyone gets a medal'. In fact, I hate it that my girls soccer team doesn't keep score. Drives me nuts.

I've been coaching competitive hockey and house league for the last 5-6 years. I've been on both ends of this type of scenario.

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
How do you win with class in a case like this because, nowhere have I seen you give us an example of how coach Anderson should have handled the situation especially since once the game started there was likely no way he could have changed the outrageous outcome without telling his team to quit which, pretty much goes against the grain of every athletic event I've ever seen and would have been more embarrassing to the Bloomington girls than a lopsided loss?


Then you haven't been reading much above. I have posted some examples and have liked another that someone else posted.

Again, they didn't let up. You don't have to give up, but you don't have to rain down points on a team at an outrageous pace.

Again, you have an out-of-date mentality when it comes to kids sports so I don't expect you to get any of that....or care.


How do you tell your players not to score and back off without it looking like they're taking their opponents with utter distain? People can see when someone isn't trying and I'll stand by my statement that doing something like that would likely have hurt the Bloomington girls just as much if not more than being buried under an avalanche of points.

BTW this isn't some kids Saturday morning soccer sports day where winning and losing don't have consequences. It happened in what is undoubtedly an ultra competitive American High School league and if I were to hazard a guess it would be that these two coaches were hired as the female basketball team head coaches and weren't just some physics teacher doing double duty. So, you can understand why one would be so upset while the other so defensive. Their jobs were on the line and for the record it's the league not the coaches responsibility to ensure that teams this mismatched don't meet, for obvious reasons.

But, you're wrong about me not caring. I do care and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to the dumb down my game so I don't hurt anyone's feelings approach to sports. You learn life skills through sports and if you can't handle an embarrassment like this and learn from it you're going to have problems later in life especially if you come to expect that people like opposing coaches, opposing players, your co-workers or your bosses should stop playing hard and trying just so you can feel good about yourself.

Maybe I am a dinosaur but when I was in high school decades upon decades ago I'd rather have played hard and lost big than played hard and had someone toy with me which, would have been ultimately more embarrassing.


We were taught to play hard no matter what and the outcome, while very relevant didn't define us as a person something that I don't expect you to understand.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:20 pm
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, you're wrong about me not caring. I do care and that's why I'm vehemently opposed to the dumb down my game so I don't hurt anyone's feelings approach to sports. You learn life skills through sports and if you can't handle an embarrassment like this and learn from it you're going to have problems later in life especially if you come to expect that people like opposing coaches, opposing players, your co-workers or your bosses should stop playing hard and trying just so you can feel good about yourself.



There are other life lessons within this context as well. Other life lessons you don't seem to care about likely due to your dinosaur nature.

You're more about teaching kids to deal with humiliation and embarrassment when everyone can be taught a little compassion, mercy, respect and sportsmanship. It's not a lack of sportsmanship to show a little compassion for a team that's struggling.

I've told my players in a 13-1 hockey game to make 3-4 passes before shooting on net. I've told them to shoot from the hash marks, no dekes...I've also switched the forwards with the defence.

Everyone can learn something from a situation like this. The losing team doesn't have to be the only team to learn from it.


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