[djakeydd]

Who exactly are the thugs that harper is refering to

http://www.nationalpost.com/multimedia/ ... id=3201093

welcome to canada eh

could it be possible that ap's are being used.. nawww - not here

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=19928

[RUEZ]

Oh no, they all have black boots. OOOOOOH

[HaRdLy]

I agree martial law should be enacted in Toronto.

RUEZ RUEZ:

Oh no, they all have black boots. OOOOOOH

Yeah wearing black boots makes you a provocateur don't you know.

[Scape]

There have been protest and riots since the inception of the G20. Not excusing the act of vandals here but there is zero excuse for holding such an important meeting in the heart of a major commercial centre. It's like waving a red flag in front of a bull and expecting it not to charge.

You don't give thugs such an opportunity on a silver platter, it was foolish and irresponsible and mars the serious advances that this meeting did make. We need the G20 as it is the only forum where we can start to bring in India, China and Russia along with the rest of the major developing economic powers to start stable global agreements. The G20 has been around since 2008 and was the brain child of Paul Martin. It is far more effective then the G8 and will end up superseding it. These protests are a backlash of resentment towards the G8 and the exclusiveness of those policies. This is and extremely volatile transitional period and one that is fraught with peril as the very markets themselves are on the brink of collapse. If there was any time there was a need to build global consensus it is now. The black protesters are the forces of anarchy and are like a force of nature that we must be prepared to weather, not try to exterminate with draconian enforcement and lockdowns. To do so means that such forums must never be held in major population centres as they attract this sort of thuggery like moths to a flame.

[HaRdLy]

$1:

It's like waving a red flag in front of a bull and expecting it not to charge.

Bulls are colour blind, just so you know.

[Apollo]

$1:

*EDIT* Oh and Mr. Canada, just for the sake of your arguement. Please give me your home address, I will start protesting the G20 by fucking up your house. You know, as you stated. For the good of the cause, any means necessary. It won't accomplish anything but hey, I am a protestor. Apparently I can fuck up anything I want no matter how idiotic and pointless it is for the sake of getting my message across to people who have NOTHING to do with the G20.

Excellent point Bacardi. We should take it one step further. We should go to all their homes and trash them. The only problem that I see with that is that it will likley make a stark improvement.

[putz]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Joe Public is a little busy trying to pay off his Student Loans and get out of debt.

A good number of Joe Public was on the roof tops yesterday yelling at the anarchists that you love so much to get the hell out of their city as their not from there.

[ShepherdsDog]

And some joes and josephines q. public won't have jobs to go back to, thanks to the criminals who vandalized businesses in downtown Toronto.
I doubt many of these criminals were hard working people....or well educated.

[ShepherdsDog]

HaRdLy HaRdLy:

$1:

It's like waving a red flag in front of a bull and expecting it not to charge.

Bulls are red-green colour blind, just so you know.

**FIXED**

[mentalfloss]

I was thinking of posting on the CBC news forums - but everyone there is either Mr. Liberal or Mrs. Conservative. Not that here is much different, but maybe we can look at this whole mess without the braindead party preachers.

Here are a few obvious issues that need to be sorted out..

1.) Fake Lake:

The one validation for the construction of this lake was that it would provide an economic benefit in the way of additional tourism. Can this be validated?

Secondly, regardless if there was a positive economic impact, was tarnishing our reputation for housing actual, REAL, natural resources, worth it?


2.) Location of the G20:

I've been reading that the G20 absolutely must have been situated in Toronto due to hospitality issues - not enough hotels/facilities for the thousands of participating members. Has this been validated or is it a load of bull?

I find it hard to believe that it wouldn't possible to have had the G20 located in a fairly isolated spot, rather than the epicenter of Toronto. This to me, is the one real criticism I have of the entire process. If the G20 was located elsewhere we probably could have avoided the huuuuge huge bill, a redundant fake lake, some violent protesting, and the general malcontent with which we are currently enduring.

So, yes, again - why did it need to be in Toronto?


3.) Protesting and G8/G20 in General:

I'm not going to even go anywhere near the peaceful vs. violent protesting conundrum since that is an argument that supercedes the G8/G20 anyway. The more important issue is - why there needs to be protesting against the G8/G20 to begin with.

I can understand the reason for protesting these conventions as they exist now because they are obviously very costly and cause a lot of societal disruption. But, all else equal, assuming G8s/G20s could exist without such huge budgets, causing riots or blocking off important networks of transportation - what reason would there be to resist our leaders from attempting to proactively resolve our existing environmental and economic problems?

[Proculation]

@mentalfloss: because they do not believe in that form of economy. They would prefer Chavez, Castro or another pseudo dictator in a socialist "paradise" where everyone is as poor as them.

[ShepherdsDog]

...except of course, those 'Communists' running the show who enjoy a level of luxury that would make Louis XVI envious.

[Proculation]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

...except of course, those 'Communists' running the show who enjoy a level of luxury that would make Louis XVI envious.

I guess those ones want to run the politburo.

[BartSimpson]

Another violent protest by leftists. Big surprise.

[ShepherdsDog]

When does Russia get to host the G8, or China the G20? It'd be one of the few times that you could cheer for their security forces.