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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:50 pm
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX I know more about the Mission in Afghanistan then you give me credit for. I'm not the one running aorund having a Meltdown trying to prove my point on the other hand you are.. Keep Ranting, also don't reply yet as for some reason your on my ignore list and I can't take you off! 
No you don't. You post nothing but ignorance.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:54 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: ridenrain ridenrain: I will be pleased to discuss any other matter in it's own thread, but this one is about the reported compromise on Afghanistan. If you continue to dodge the matter at hand, I will be forced to parade around like a jackass, bosting "I won, I won" like it somehow matters.
As I said, I don't expect to change you're mind or get you to even say that this position puts the Libs in a bad light. At the very best, I'd expect you to drop out of the thread and the readers an form their own opinion. Dodge dodge dodge. I did answer. I answered concerning your inability to actually post anything concerning any black and white orders detailing our exact responsibilities in Afghansitan showed you conceeded the point. In addition, I already stated that the Liberals entire compromise is based entirely upon staying in afghanistan in a different role, a role anybody but a warmonger would support. In addition I also proved that despite whatever BS yopu want to post nothing precludes a new party leader from deciding a different course of action just as you would support Harper entirely if he decided despite agreeing to many kyoto arguments if he suddenly turfed it all aside if he got a majority. In addition you aren't addressing my topic concerning your complete flip-flop over helping the afghan muslims and bitching about them on every other thread. Thats because I hit home with that point. You still can't figure it out.
Look at me.. I won an internet argument.. Weee.
Dion can chose whatever position he wants, and already has.. the bottom line is that he was part of the administration that put us there and supported us. He was also part of the government that all sat on their hands when the mission was extended.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:01 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX I know more about the Mission in Afghanistan then you give me credit for. I'm not the one running aorund having a Meltdown trying to prove my point on the other hand you are.. Keep Ranting, also don't reply yet as for some reason your on my ignore list and I can't take you off!  No you don't. You post nothing but ignorance.
There Fixed It!
Your a Hypocrite to the core, so keep meltingdown trying to back up your hypocrisy because I laugh at Liberals like you who don't have a Fucking Clue..
If the Liberals were still in power, you wouldn't have a god damn thing against the Mission in Afghanistan, cut and dry that is it! 
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:02 pm
sasquatch2 sasquatch2: Johnny_Utah $1: The Bottom Line is Liberals like DerbyX are Hypocrites when it comes to Canada's Mission in Afghanistan because their bitching and whining over it has nothing to do with the Mission itself it has to do with the fact the Liberals are out of power no longer calling the shots which eats them alive.. Exactly but in their heart of hearts they are bitterly aware that their reign of terror is over. Even the CBC is starting to clue in---now if the Senate got the message...... In another land they would be donning explosive vests.......
If Canada losing the Mission in Afghanistan could regain them power Liberals like DerbyX would be for it..
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:10 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: DerbyX DerbyX: ridenrain ridenrain: I will be pleased to discuss any other matter in it's own thread, but this one is about the reported compromise on Afghanistan. If you continue to dodge the matter at hand, I will be forced to parade around like a jackass, bosting "I won, I won" like it somehow matters.
As I said, I don't expect to change you're mind or get you to even say that this position puts the Libs in a bad light. At the very best, I'd expect you to drop out of the thread and the readers an form their own opinion. Dodge dodge dodge. I did answer. I answered concerning your inability to actually post anything concerning any black and white orders detailing our exact responsibilities in Afghansitan showed you conceeded the point. In addition, I already stated that the Liberals entire compromise is based entirely upon staying in afghanistan in a different role, a role anybody but a warmonger would support. In addition I also proved that despite whatever BS yopu want to post nothing precludes a new party leader from deciding a different course of action just as you would support Harper entirely if he decided despite agreeing to many kyoto arguments if he suddenly turfed it all aside if he got a majority. In addition you aren't addressing my topic concerning your complete flip-flop over helping the afghan muslims and bitching about them on every other thread. Thats because I hit home with that point. You still can't figure it out. Look at me.. I won an internet argument.. Weee. Dion can chose whatever position he wants, and already has.. the bottom line is that he was part of the administration that put us there and supported us. He was also part of the government that all sat on their hands when the mission was extended.
Oh, I got it didn't. I found the biggest flaw in your so called support for "helping" the afghan people.
The people I help I do without attacking the very core of their belief. I wonder how Ezra will feel about you knowing you want nothing more then to help afghanis come to Canada to threaten him.
How about those women who were attacked because they launched a human rights complaint against the very type of muslim iman who we now support in afghanistan.
I got you. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Your reasons for dodging my points. Your reasons why you support only military "intervention". The reason why on every other thread you attack the very core of the afghanistans people being, and religion is just that.
Oh my goodness. Your logic defeated fully and your persona displayed in full.
How about Syed Soharwardy, the very type "modern and peaceful" cleric who we support in afghanistahn.
Are you just fooling us as you try to lull us intio a false sense of security while you bring sharia to Canada?
Yes, the Afghan people will become our great friends as you have so posted. They will become such great friends that they will make it a personal goal to save us from hellfire by making certain we all become saved muslims and that islam and sharia saves us.
Good job RR.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:12 pm
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX DerbyX: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX I know more about the Mission in Afghanistan then you give me credit for. I'm not the one running aorund having a Meltdown trying to prove my point on the other hand you are.. Keep Ranting, also don't reply yet as for some reason your on my ignore list and I can't take you off!  No you don't. You post nothing but ignorance. There Fixed It! Your a Hypocrite to the core, so keep meltingdown trying to back up your hypocrisy because I laugh at Liberals like you who don't have a Fucking Clue.. If the Liberals were still in power, you wouldn't have a god damn thing against the Mission in Afghanistan, cut and dry that is it! 
I'm on your ignore list? Its either deliberate or you simply hit that button instead ogf quote.
Actually I'd prefer you just ignore me because you just post garbage anyway.
I'll take my own advice.
On yer bike tough guy.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:21 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: I will be pleased to discuss any other matter in it's own thread, but this one is about the reported compromise on Afghanistan. If you continue to dodge the matter at hand, I will be forced to parade around like a jackass, bosting "I won, I won" like it somehow matters.
As I said, I don't expect to change you're mind or get you to even say that this position puts the Libs in a bad light. At the very best, I'd expect you to drop out of the thread and the readers an form their own opinion. Please stay on topic. It's not about Ezra or Syed. This isn't about you or I helping the people of Afghanistan, only through the actions of our army and aid money can we help. I'll discuss anything you want in it's own thread but you're desperate dodges are sad and telling of a man who has run out of defence. Please address the questions on this topic: $1: Do you accept the Afghan compact and the timeline that is represented? If not, can you provide a proven alternative?
Do you accept the fact that martin signed the Compact and authorized us to go from Kabal to Kanduhar, without the provisions and conditions against combat?
Do you accept that Dion was part of the martin government and can you prove that Dion did not agree with martin's decision?
Johnny_Utah: I think we're done here.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:25 pm
DerbyX DerbyX: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX DerbyX: Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah: DerbyX I know more about the Mission in Afghanistan then you give me credit for. I'm not the one running aorund having a Meltdown trying to prove my point on the other hand you are.. Keep Ranting, also don't reply yet as for some reason your on my ignore list and I can't take you off!  No you don't. You post nothing but ignorance. There Fixed It! Your a Hypocrite to the core, so keep meltingdown trying to back up your hypocrisy because I laugh at Liberals like you who don't have a Fucking Clue.. If the Liberals were still in power, you wouldn't have a god damn thing against the Mission in Afghanistan, cut and dry that is it!  I'm on your ignore list? Its either deliberate or you simply hit that button instead ogf quote. Actually I'd prefer you just ignore me because you just post garbage anyway. I'll take my own advice. On yer bike tough guy.
My mouse hit the ignore by mistake, why would I ignore you or any other Liberal?
Again Your a Hypocrite and you know I'm right, so keep Bitching, Ranting thinking your always right because Your not!
Ignore me then it proves me right about you, whinny Liberal Bitch, things don't go his way he melts down insulting anyone who doesn't agree with him, typical Liberal mindset, acutally there's Liberals on CKA who have more common sense then you..
Liberals like you are the Dion's who don't have a Fucking Clue and never will..
The other Liberals are the Manley's who have a clue..
Sucks to be you little Dion Bitch! 
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:49 pm
To All Liberal Supporters:
I was watching CBC News: The National this evening and Dion stated that now that the Gov't had accepted their first amendment they would try to submit further amendments until the gov'ts position is more inline with the (fully hidden )Liberal Position.
Dion is showing himself to be more foolish than first thought. The gov't has tried to find a consesus in order for our great country to follow through on our commitments (The Afghan Compact) and now they want to play more politics to force other things through.
If I was the PM I would call an election now and watch Dion flounder around like a lost retarded child and end his suffering.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:29 am
ridenrain... why not just admit that Dion won on this one... the tories change alot of their position. but then they knew the Canadian people agreed with the libs and they thought they might be going to the polls... time to give over
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:57 am
kenmore kenmore: ridenrain... why not just admit that Dion won on this one... the tories change alot of their position. but then they knew the Canadian people agreed with the libs and they thought they might be going to the polls... time to give over
Dion won this one  Ya right. Besides Kenmore, what happened to your "pull them out now!" mantra? Dion flip flopped on this issue just like every other issue he is faced with.

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:07 am
well I have to admit... he is starting to annoy me .. If he cant get his shit together..might have to go NDP
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:08 am
kenmore kenmore: well I have to admit... he is starting to annoy me .. If he cant get his shit together..might have to go NDP Why not just vote Bloc then?
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:23 am
kenmore kenmore: well I have to admit... he is starting to annoy me .. If he cant get his shit together..might have to go NDP
I will admit Dion has rolled up his sleeves a bit lately but he still seems to be struggling. The Liberal party needs a bit of a kick in the ass in MHO. Maybe if they lost a few seats in the next election they might wake up a bit.
If it makes you feel better I'm not overly pleased with Harper either but I just don't see Dion as offering a viable alternative at this time.
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Normalguy
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Posts: 185
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:31 pm
ubi concordia, ibi victoria...loosely "In unity there is victory", this really pisses me off. We need to send a strong message to the guys in manjammies but, noo...Those guys have no qualms and the beheadings, hangings, rapes, bombings, extortion and drug traffic continues. No exageration, just fact and we waffle and accomodate pissants like Dion and Layton so they can make political hay. Friggin nation of shopkeepers indeed, if the concept of free Afghanistan bothers the Lberals and the rest of the left so much why don't they have the balls to say so! Because they have no balls, the handwringers and navel starers of our country live in a dream world of rainbows an lolipops. Instead of going to Russia, France or Cuba for your holidays Stephane why don't you go to some of these sh**hole countries? Believe me they don't live that way because they friggin want too moron! They actually and really need our help and are happy to have it...
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