[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I guess I'm just naïve in thinking that the job of a military is to defend a country, and the job of Police is to defend the rule of law. As such; tear gas, riot police, flashbangs, firehoses, shotguns with beanbags and even claymore style deployed tasers are what you use against civillian crowds. Snipers, not so much.

In a normal country, yes.

Egypt isn't a normal country by any stretch of the imagination.

[martin14]

xerxes xerxes:

While the above posters are right about the nastiness of the MB when they were in power, is this really the best way to deal with them? They already had essentially marginalized themselves, now they could be legitimate martyrs after today.

This has been going ton a long time, nothing new.

The MB had power and royally fucked up. Now they pay for that mistake.
They'll be back, don't worry.

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

While the above posters are right about the nastiness of the MB when they were in power, is this really the best way to deal with them?

No, it's not the best way to deal with them. The best way is to surround the encampments and then fire into them taking care to make sure there are no survivors.

See, 50 dead guys become martyrs with names.

15,000 dead guys are just casualties.

Sorry to be callous about that, but it's the way this kind of thing works.

Back in 2008 the Chinese slaughtered some 45,000 Uighurs in Western China and no one gave a damn because the media wasn't there to put it on TV. The lesson the Egyptian military needs to take away from this is to shut down cell phone communications and then revoke the visas for the foreign press who keep making the islamists look like the victims.

And then go in and clean house.

[Jabberwalker]

The lesson the Egyptian military needs to take away from this is to shut down cell phone communications and then revoke the visas for the foreign press who keep making the islamists look like the victims.


They would but they're in denile.

[BartSimpson]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

The lesson the Egyptian military needs to take away from this is to shut down cell phone communications and then revoke the visas for the foreign press who keep making the islamists look like the victims.


They would but they're in denile.

[DrCaleb]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

They would but they're in denile.

So, it has come to this.

[Jabberwalker]

If you can't laugh at it, it will make you cry. This could be another ... and much larger "Syria" in the making.

[ShepherdsDog]

Christian church has been attacked and set on fire by MB supporters. The MB are blaming Copts for the Morsi ouster.

[Jabberwalker]

The Copts seem to get it no matter who is "in" or "out" in Egypt. It's amazing that their church survived the Middle Ages, let alone the new millennium.

[martin14]

278 dead today, including 43 police.


It's not a game over there.

[xerxes]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

xerxes xerxes:

While the above posters are right about the nastiness of the MB when they were in power, is this really the best way to deal with them?

No, it's not the best way to deal with them. The best way is to surround the encampments and then fire into them taking care to make sure there are no survivors.

See, 50 dead guys become martyrs with names.

15,000 dead guys are just casualties.

Sorry to be callous about that, but it's the way this kind of thing works.

Back in 2008 the Chinese slaughtered some 45,000 Uighurs in Western China and no one gave a damn because the media wasn't there to put it on TV. The lesson the Egyptian military needs to take away from this is to shut down cell phone communications and then revoke the visas for the foreign press who keep making the islamists look like the victims.

And then go in and clean house.

Sadly that's true. But then again, it's also China. Egypt is trying to be a democracy and this kind of behaviour from the military isn't exactly a good foundation to rebuilt a country on.

[xerxes]

235 civilians dead, 43 police so far. Here's hoping day two doesn't get any worse. If that's possible at this point.

[DrCaleb]

From reading several news reports, police did lead with bulldozers and tear gas. They took the first camp without loss of life. It was after that . . .

[martin14]

from the BBC

$1:

In the wake of the violence, Vice-President Mohammed ElBaradei has announced his resignation from the interim government.

"I cannot continue in shouldering the responsibility for decisions I do not agree with and I fear their consequences. I cannot shoulder the responsibility for a single drop of blood," he said in a statement.

wuss.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Christian church has been attacked and set on fire by MB supporters. The MB are blaming Copts for the Morsi ouster.

7 churches now.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Christian church has been attacked and set on fire by MB supporters. The MB are blaming Copts for the Morsi ouster.

7 churches now.

S.O.P. is it not? Bad things happen to you, take it out on some minority or another.